Diamondbacks Sweep Cubs: NLDS Epilogue Roundup
The Cubs had losing streaks of three of more games eight times during the regular season. They happened to choose a bad time for their ninth of the year. Everyone has something to say:
Daily Herald's Bruce Miles: "The Cubs were just good enough this year to win the National League Central, but they weren't good enough to dominate or win a postseason series."
And more Miles: "I do know this: the Cubs better find some hitters who know the meaning of on-base percentage. They also could use some pop from their outfielders. GM Jim Hendry is going to have to be creative this winter. We'll see how long a budget leash he has."
Daily Herald's Tim Sassone: "Call them the Cubs' big three, but they came up a big zero in the first-round sweep at the hands of the Arizona Diamondbacks. . . . Ramirez was 0-for-12 with no RBI and 5 strikeouts; Soriano batted .143 (2-for-14) with no RBI and 4 strikeouts; Lee hit .333, but drove in no runs and struck out four times. . . . The Cubs . . . were 2-for-23 in the series with runners in scoring position."
BP's Nate Silver: "One research finding that I'm probably not going to get to document in detail this year is that the critical threshold with respect to the "playoff bonus" - the longish-term boost that a team gets to its attendance and TV revenues as a result of reaching the playoffs - seems to be in between the LDS and the LCS. That is, it's reaching the LCS round when under most circumstances a team's season goes from being ordinary to "special". If the Cubs cannot manage to come back in the 9th, I think this season gets labeled more a failure than a success."
BP's Joe Sheehan: "We talk about this every October: clutch isn't a skill, players and teams don't show the ability to time their actions, so we evaluate them without regard to timing. However, at the game level, timing is very important, and having a .500 OBP for five innings means nothing if you don't have some of those guys cross home plate. The Cubs had lousy timing in this series, and combined with the two poor starts and the Diamondbacks' power and bullpen, they lost in three."
ESPN.com's Gene Wojciechowski: "The reasons for the frustration were obvious. The Cubs supposedly had the better pitching, the better hitting, the better managing and the better experience. The problem is, the Diamondbacks had the better timing. Arizona hit and held tight when it mattered most. In fact, it isn't very complicated. The Diamondbacks simply outplayed the Cubs in almost every way imaginable. To pretend otherwise is silly."
1060west: "I really believe that turning Cub fandom into a cult-like religion is ruining the experience for many of us."
Bleed Cubbie Blue's Al Yellon: "We are disappointed this day, though it doesn't feel as bad as it did in 2003, because this team never got as close to the Promised Land as we were four years ago, nor was this team as talented. While the decision to remove Carlos Zambrano from game one can be, and has been, endlessly debated . . ., the Cubs didn't lose this series because of that. They lost the series because Alfonso Soriano and Aramis Ramirez went 2-for-26 with nine strikeouts, and because Ted Lilly and Rich Hill approached their starts like scared little kids instead of major leaguers, and because, as I noted above, the Cubs didn't pay attention to their scouting reports."
Another Cubs Blog: " I just think one can’t look at 2007 without examining 2006 and there’s no way for me to say that 2007 wasn’t a success. Did they reach their goal? Yes and No. I hope they aren’t content (I’m not either). I want more just like Lou does. But the goal, in my opinion, has always been to become a consistently good team. That’s possible at this point so I’m satisfied."
The Cub Reporter's Cubnut: "These disappointments get harder to take the older I get." I can't agree. It's much easier for me now. I cried when I was 11 in 1989. I now realize that there are a lot of things more important.
Gonfalon Cubs' DeJesus Freak: "I do not believe that the Chicago Cubs will ever win a World Series in my lifetime." And yet he rightly hates the curse talk.
Chicago Tribune's Rick Morrissey: "A radio talk-show host recently referred to the Cubs as a 'national embarrassment.' No. An 85-victory team doesn't often come into the playoffs and dominate. This was a decent team finding its level. They played this way for long periods during the regular season."
Trib's Phil Rogers: "This wasn't how the Tribune Co. era was supposed to go. It had begun on Aug. 28, 1981, with leadoff man Steve Henderson's single to right field at Dodger Stadium. The television and newspaper giant was welcomed by Chicago fans, who were weary of William Wrigley's handling of a franchise he had inherited."
Chicago Sun-Times' Greg Couch: "I don't blame Piniella. He was the right manager, a master at bringing together all these odd, ill-fitted parts. The players weren't good enough. Simple. The Cubs won 66 games last year, 85 this year. But what do you expect now? Soriano to learn the value of advancing a runner? Ted Lilly to do better than the career year he just had? Ramirez and Lee to improve?"
Daily Herald's Barry Rozner: "One thing the Cubs weren't was out-managed, despite much screaming to the contrary. Rather than show his inability, what this sad series did was prove what a remarkable job Piniella did in 2007 with an extremely mediocre club that relied heavily on heavy hitters with heavy wallets."
FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal: "The Cubs were overrated, the Diamondbacks underrated. Looking back, it all sort of makes sense."
MSNBC.com's Bob Cook: "Whether manager Lou Piniella cares to believe it, the Chicago Cubs are cursed." What follows is a lot of nonsense having nothing to do with baseball.
Yahoo! Sports' Jeff Passan: "The final was 5-1, though the score was immaterial. Inconsistency plagued the Cubs all season, and it doomed them in October. They hit into four double plays and stranded nine runners. They yielded three home runs and wasted Arizona's 13 strikeouts. The Cubs were, for lack of a better adjective, the Cubs."
The Tribune's Melissa Isaacson quotes Mark DeRosa, who we'll give the last word, as saying: "We took a team that lost 96 games to the playoffs and that has to be viewed as a success, but we didn't accomplish what we wanted and it's hard to view that as anything but depressing."
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Ranting on Soriano
I think Barry Rozner may have summed up my feeling on the 2007 Cubs best.
One thing the Cubs weren't was out-managed, despite much screaming to the contrary.
Rather than show his inability, what this sad series did was prove what a remarkable job Piniella did in 2007 with an extremely mediocre club that relied heavily on heavy hitters with heavy wallets.
And though Piniella fought through the roster shavings and made enough chicken salad to feed a run to a division title, the 3-run homer style of baseball doesn't generally work come October.
Piniella did a heck of a job with the hand he was dealt. He managed to get this clubs to 85 wins and a division title, which was amazing considering it shortcomings.
For his postseason career, Soriano is now a .225 hitter with 49 strikeouts in 41 games.
Clueless to the very end, it was at least fitting and perversely proper that with two outs in the ninth, the bases empty and down 4 runs, Soriano swung as hard as he could several times before flying out weakly to right to end the Cubs' season.
I can't help but wonder, given the state of the NLCD, if we still might have won it without spending all that money on Soriano. I can't express how disappointed I was at the contract he was given considering that this team did not need another all or nothing strikeout artist whose personal philosophy of how the game should be played is more in line with the old manager than the current one. To me this one signing almost undid almost any good that was done last winter.
I'll never believe that signing Soriano was a condition of Piniella's for taking the Cubs job. No player or manager could be more diametrically opposed in their individual appoaches to the game. All one has to do is look at Piniella's teams in Seattle and his statements about the importance of OBP since becoming the Cubs manager then compare them to the way Soriano approaches every at-bats to know this.
I'm glad I was on night shift this weekend and did not have to watch game 3. It would have just made me want to throw a brick through the television.
But he won't be able to take one-dimensional players like Alfonso Soriano and Aramis Ramirez and turn them into postseason stars who play great defense, run the bases hard, move runners over and give themselves up for the team.
I do think Rozner may have been a little unjust to Ramirez. Ramirez's glove has improved a lot since coming to the Cubs, and as far as his poor at-bats in this NLDS, they are not indicative of his recent seasons with the Cubs. Ramirez's hustle has also been better since Piniella came on board. If Ramirez is guilty of anything, it's probably trying to do to much. Ramirez has never been considered a guy who could put a team on his shoulders and carry it, which is why he isn't being paid what Soriano makes. Of course Soriano is not that type of player either, but the Cubs chose to pay him as such anyways.
I won't be surprised if the Cubs regress or just tread water in 2008. It's not likely any money is going to be spent on player acuqisition until team's ownership is decided, and by then it will be to late. I'm also not sure exactly what help we can expect from the farm in 2008 after all we got from it in 2007.
Rozner
I do think Rozner may have been a little unjust to Ramirez.
And Soriano, too, who also plays fine defense and "runs the bases hard." He was slowed by leg injuries throughout the year, and reportedly was ordered by management to take it a little easier, but I don't question his hustle on the bases. Soriano's approach at the plate can be questionable, but it's silly for Rozner to call him "one-dimensional."
It's also unclear to me why I'd want to see Soriano or Ramirez "moving runners over." Their propensity for extra-base hits (not just homers!) is what makes them valuable in the first place; I'm pretty sure the Cubs score a lot more runs than they would by getting an extra base (and an extra out) here and there.
RE: Rozner
Completely agree. Some of Rozner's comments were off-base, which is why I decided to only focus on the one comment that made the most sense.
RE: Rozner
Okay, I can't deny Soriano was a defensive upgrade, and that he hustles, but I think you all missed my overall point. I was unnerved by this signing last winter. He's not a leadoff man, but his splits suggest he is even less affective further down in the order. In terms of his approach at the plate, he was the last thing this team needed, but to make things worse, he has become the defacto mentor to the organizations top ranked prospect Felix Pie, and you can tell every time Pie comes to the plate he wants to be just like Soriano. If Murton had been handed the everyday job in left field and put up .281/.352/.438 over 500 to 600 AB versus the 235 AB he actually got, would the Cubs have been much worse overall? Probably not, if any, and they would have saved a heck of a lot of money. My other beef with Soriano is simply that the Yankees did not want him, and that should've told the Cubs something.
Soriano
Understood. I wasn't (and still am not) a big fan of the Soriano contract, either. All I wanted to point out is that Soriano has more value than Rozner would have us believe.
My other beef with Soriano is simply that the Yankees did not want him, and that should've told the Cubs something.
Maybe, although it has to be remembered that he was traded away from New York in exchange for one of the best players of the current era at or near the prime of that player's career. I can't think of too many players that I wouldn't have traded away for Alex Rodriguez in 2004, especially knowing that the Rangers were picking up a big part of the tab.
Soriano
Soriano had a bad series, he has a bad approach at the plate, and his contract will undoubtedly be a hinderance several years from now, but it's hard to complain about a guy who finished 7th in the NL among outfielders in Win Shares this season.
Rozner on Ramirez
I do think Rozner may have been a little unjust to Ramirez.
Yes, and if he was unfair to Ramirez in that article, he was even more unfair in this article.
re: Rozner on Ramirez
That article is nothing but a hit piece, but what do you expect from a guy who looks so much like Joe Pesci? The whole idea of A-Rod coming to the Cubs is ridiculous considering how much money was spent last winter, and that A-Rod and his agent, Scott Boras, realize they will never make more anywhere else than with the Yankees whether he opts out of his current contract or not.
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